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On 6 July 2015, it was proposed that this article be moved from Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen to Olsen twins. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

NEED LIST.

Article needs estimated net worth of the twins. Heard they were up and above the billion dollar mark already, info like this should be added by a resourceful wikipedian in my opinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.178.74.40 (talk) 14:40, 12 June 2007

Nowhere near a billion. Forbes say $100 million - don't know if that is combined or each though. http://www.forbes.com/2007/01/17/richest-women-entertainment-tech-media-cz_lg_richwomen07_0118womenstars_lander.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.113.10 (talk) 20:57, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Crediting on Full House

the use of 'Mary Kate Ashley Olsen' was supposed to give the illusion of them being one person? The way it came off to me (with a line break after Kate) was that they were two people with different last names.. >.> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.21.221 (talk) 03:46, 8 July 2007

They were credited as "Mary Kate Ashley Olsen" for the first 3 seasons of the show, to avoid confusion. Afterwards it became "Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen. To help differentiate, MK did most of the comedic scenes, whereas Ashley did more of the somber and/or emotional scenes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malsk (talk • contribs) 09:32, 17 July 2007 Also on the page it says Ashley would cry more than Mary-Kate when she was brought on set in the first year of the show and that is true. The Olsen twins themselves admitted to this is a interview.

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Change The twins' parents divorced in 1995 to The twins' parents divorced in 1996 12.235.126.200 (talk) 19:40, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:55, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge individual articles into the twins article

I'm proposing to merge Mary-Kate Olsen and Ashley Olsen into Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen per WP:OVERLAP. I'm not exaggerating when I say the articles are word-for-word duplicative across much of the articles.

Example 1:

Ashley's article:

Ashley Fuller Olsen was born on June 13, 1986, in Sherman Oaks, California. She is the daughter of Jarnette "Jarnie" Olsen (née Jones; b. 1954), a personal manager, and David "Dave" Olsen, a real estate developer and mortgage banker. Along with her twin, Mary-Kate, they have an older brother Trent, a younger sister and actress Elizabeth, and younger half-siblings Taylor and Jake (from their father's second marriage). Olsen's parents divorced in 1996. Their father has Norwegian ancestry while their mother is of French, German and Italian ancestry. Olsen attended the Campbell Hall School in Los Angeles. After graduating from Campbell Hall in 2004, she and Mary-Kate went on to attend New York University's Gallatin School of Individualized Study.

Mary-Kate's article:

Mary-Kate Olsen was born on June 13, 1986, in Sherman Oaks, California. She is the daughter of Jarnette "Jarnie" (née Jones; b. 1954), a personal manager, and David "Dave" Olsen, a real estate developer and mortgage banker. Along with her twin Ashley, she has an older brother Trent, a younger sister and actress Elizabeth, and two half-siblings Taylor and Jake (from her father's second marriage). Olsen's parents divorced in 1996. The twins and their siblings have Norwegian ancestry while their mother is of French, German and Italian ancestry. Olsen attended the Campbell Hall School in Los Angeles. After graduating from Campbell Hall in 2004, Olsen and her twin sister went on to attend the Gallatin School of Individualized Study at New York University.

Example 2:

Ashley's article:

Following a high volume of public interest in their fashion choices, Mary-Kate and Ashley collaborated on a series of fashion lines available to the public. They released clothing in Walmart stores across America for girls ages 4 to 14, as well as a beauty line called Mary-Kate and Ashley: Real Fashion for Real Girls. In 2004, they made news by signing a pledge to allow all the workers that sew their line of clothing in Bangladesh full maternity leave. The National Labor Committee, which organized the pledge, later praised the twins for their commitment to worker rights.

Mary-Kate's article:

Following a high volume of public interest in their fashion choices, the Olsen twins began work in collaboration on a string of fashion lines available to the public. Starting as young girls, they started a clothing line in Wal-Mart stores across America for girls ages 4 to 14 as well as a beauty line called "Mary-Kate and Ashley: Real fashion for real girls".[better source needed] In 2004, they made news by signing a pledge to allow all the workers that sew their line of clothing in Bangladesh full maternity leave. The National Labor Committee, which organized the pledge, later praised the twins for their commitment to worker rights.

These are just samples. Sources overwhelmingly discuss the pair together, and that is justified. The twins have done just about everything together, even the awards they received. It serves the readers better to consolidate this information into one (1) article than keep separated as three (3) separate articles with massive overlap. The instances where they did things separately is an exception, and we can still accomodate for that in a combined article when its needed (e.g. Personal Life subsections, Mary-Kate's equestrian career). There is no guideline or policy that states we need separate articles just because they are separate people. TarkusAB^talk/contrib 19:51, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that there is extreme overlap in the articles, but that was probably done by editors copying sections to the multiple articles unnecessarily. I feel they are both notable on their own and if some trimming adjusting needs to be done that's another discussion. Either way I'm opposed the merger or removal of the individual articles. WikiVirusC^(talk) 19:30, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, while there is a lot of overlap they have separate acting credits, relationships, roles on the Row, etc. --Shivertimbers433 (talk) 23:27, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK I have withdrawn the proposal. TarkusAB^talk/contrib 22:20, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]